https://www.cbc.ca/listen/live-radio/1-46/clip/15914809

Aired: May 25, 2022

Nick Devine is a long-time bartender here in Vancouver, and he co-founded Edna's Non-Alcoholic Cocktail Company.And Kurtis Kolt is a local wine expert and writer who recently launched a website for no-and-low alcohol drinks called It's The Flipside.ca.